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opinions please which i should get

Does either have expandable memory?

can either play video clips that i can load into the phone. If so, what size
files?

Does either support voice dialling? if so how many numbers can i assign
voice to?

Many thanks

Gunnr wrote:


Eh, I have a V600, but personally Id go for the Z600 - I just think its
interface is far better, and I think it looks pretty fly. It cant play
video clips (which the V600 can), but thats not something I find
important. Neither have expandable memory.

They both support voice dialing, with neither having (to the best of my
knowledge) having any limit - shouldnt be a problem considering they
both have MBs of memory.

As I say, Id recommend the Z600 - it is slightly more bulky, but it
works so much more nicely.

Joe OHara wrote in message
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My V600 is limited to 20 voice dials, Ive never found the limit on my T630
(which has the same guts as a Z600)
HTH
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Steve Dulieu wrote:


Is it really? Thats fairly disappointing... oh well, better not save
too many! I was used to unlimited as on my P900!

Steve Dulieu wrote:

>>They both support voice dialing, with neither having (to the best of my
>>knowledge) having any limit - shouldnt be a problem considering they
>>both have MBs of memory.
>>
>
> My V600 is limited to 20 voice dials, Ive never found the limit on my T630
> (which has the same guts as a Z600)
> HTH

Unfortunately, having no limit in memory does not mean that it has no
limit in terms of accuracy.

The way mobile phone voice dialling works is quite simple in that it
simply stores the sounds as waveform templates. When you speak, it
converts your speech into this form and then performs a distance
calculation between your sound and each of The stored templates. The
template that is closest to the sound that you uttered is deemed to be
the winner. Depending on the implementation, there may also be a
confidence threshold used whereby if none of the templates is closer
than a set value, the phone simply fails to recognise your utterance
because it simply isnt confident enough about what you said.

Now, with a limit of, say, 10 voice tags it is very easy to make them
all sound acoustically different. However, the larger your vocabulary
gets, the more confusable it gets and therefore the more likely it will
misrecognise your utterance. Therefore, there is still a useability
limit with all these phones whether or not there is a memory- or
implementation- defined limit.

...and, yes...I do know what Im talking about - Ive worked in the
Speech Technology industry.

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All true, but at least because of the way they work, the SE phones allow for
about 4 times the number of voice dials before the confusion limit is
reached.
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Steve Dulieu wrote:

>
> All true, but at least because of the way they work, the SE phones allow for
> about 4 times the number of voice dials before the confusion limit is
> reached.

Hi Steve,

Im not sure what you mean here.

Are you simply saying that SE handsets have a useable limit of 40 tags
(comparing it with the historic 10 tag limit I mentioned earlier) or are
you implying that SE ASR technology is more powerful than that of the
current competition?

Interestingly enough...voice-dial has not been a big winner in handsets
and that is evident from the fact that it is no longer the ubiquitous
feature that it once was. That probably had something to do with the
limitations of the implementation.

Template matching is not a particularly powerful method, although it is
a very neat and elegant solution for voice-dialling in a mobile phone,
which to date has very limited memory and processing power and
effectively no capability to train a set of models on the fly.

regards,
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Reestit Mutton wrote in message
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With my Motorola each number I wish to voice dial must have a unique tag
associated. EG Reestit Mutton Mobile, Reestit Mutton Home, Reestit
Mutton Work, Reestit Mutton Other and so on, and as such you quickly run
out of unique tags. To dial, you press the voice dial button and say the tag
of the number you want to dial after the tone. The phone then repeats the
tag back to you and begins to dial.
SEs use a two step voice dial procedure. First off you define a global
tag for the four types of number you can store against a contacts name -
Home, Work, Mobile, Other. You then define a unique tag for the contact, in
this example Steve Dulieu. To dial you press the voice dial button and say
the unique tag for the contact you want to call after the tone, the phone
repeats the contact name back to you and then gives another tone, after
which you say the global tag for the number type you wish to call, the phone
repeats the number type and begins to dial.
So with the Motorola system, if my mate Reestit has four telephone
numbers I need to use four unique tags to be able to voice dial them all.
With the SE system I only need to use one unique tag for my mate Reestit to
be able to dial the same four numbers because the global tags take care of
the number types.
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