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 Post subject: Which? on 3G
PostPosted: 2004-12-02 10:21:49
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Here:- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4059753.stm

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Which? has recommended that people do not buy third generation (3G)
mobiles, which can be used for video calls.
The consumer group says UK network coverage for 3G is too limited to
make the cost of the phones worthwhile.


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 Post subject: Which? on 3G
PostPosted: 2004-12-02 10:36:06
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Hiram Hackenbacker wrote:
>Which? has recommended that people do not buy third generation (3G)
>mobiles, which can be used for video calls.
>The consumer group says UK network coverage for 3G is too limited to
>make the cost of the phones worthwhile.

Ive got Which?s article in front of me - and thats conspiculously what
they *didnt* say - the article makes *no* comment about the cost or value.
Their only gripes are on coverage and handset size.

Youdve thought the BBC journalist responsible wouldve actually read it,
but apparently not.

Which?s conclusion is broadly yes, but not yet. But as the article
appears to have been written about three months ago (certainly by the
handsets they reviewed), though only just published, their conclusions about
coverage and handset size are rather less valid.

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 Post subject: Which? on 3G
PostPosted: 2004-12-02 12:28:23
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Hiram Hackenbacker wrote:
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>Here:- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4059753.stm
>
>Includes:-
>
>Which? has recommended that people do not buy third generation (3G)
>mobiles, which can be used for video calls.
>The consumer group says UK network coverage for 3G is too limited to
>make the cost of the phones worthwhile.

Quite simply their article is complete nonsense and basic ...

The case for Voda 3G (Ł160 3G phones) and NOT 3 :) lol

3 for example have 80%ish plus 3G coverage - even if its poor you are
automatically switch to normal GSM which doesnt effect your inclusive
calltime.

You get upwards of 750 minutes (Ł35) of calls (same/x-net/landline) and
500mins is Ł25 in that you get a feature rich phone that is heavily
subsidised (eg: Ł30/45).

On contract you get the above calltime/tariffs BUT these are heavily
discounted - me for example am on a Ł25 tariff for 1/2 price for 3 months
(Ł12.50) then the next 6 months is Ł4.99 p/m so in effect Im paying normal
prices for the latter 3 months.
The phones are top-notch and FREE - I got the LGU8120 3G dualscreen
camera/videophone.

Per year:
FREE 3G LGU8120 camera/videophone (2/2.5G fallback)
6,000 (same/x-net/landline) minutes (500 per month)
Cost in 1st year = Ł117.44

Certainly looks like a good time to get on the bandwaggon to me :)

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 Post subject: Which? on 3G
PostPosted: 2004-12-02 14:48:09
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In article , David Marshall
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> Ive got Which?s article in front of me - and thats conspiculously what
> they *didnt* say - the article makes *no* comment about the cost or value.
> Their only gripes are on coverage and handset size.
>
Indeed. No mention of the fact that you get 500 minutes x network for
Ł25.


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 Post subject: Which? on 3G
PostPosted: 2004-12-02 14:49:34
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In article ,
Conor wrote:
>> Ive got Which?s article in front of me - and thats conspiculously what
>> they *didnt* say - the article makes *no* comment about the cost or value.
>> Their only gripes are on coverage and handset size.
>Indeed. No mention of the fact that you get 500 minutes x network for
>Ł25.

Which? almost never look at the cost of something - just how good it is.
They believe their readers are bright enough to weigh price and quality for
themselves. It also means their reviews are valid for longer, even as prices
fall.

So, it seems, the BBC just made up the quote theyre using in their
headline.

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 Post subject: Which? on 3G
PostPosted: 2004-12-02 19:19:12
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In article , dave@durge.org
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> Which? almost never look at the cost of something - just how good it is.
> They believe their readers are bright enough to weigh price and quality for
> themselves. It also means their reviews are valid for longer, even as prices
> fall.
>
> So, it seems, the BBC just made up the quote theyre using in their
> headline.

I think the real issue here is that Which? only use things which can
create a sensation and for some reason much of the media trusts what
they say!
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 Post subject: Which? on 3G
PostPosted: 2004-12-02 19:43:05
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Stephen (Sausagefans.com) wrote:
>I think the real issue here is that Which? only use things which can
>create a sensation and for some reason much of the media trusts what
>they say!

Ive read Which?s report - it was a fair statement three months ago. But
today? No, its not even close to true.

And then the media piles the problems on by misreporting Which?s report!

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 Post subject: Which? on 3G
PostPosted: 2004-12-02 19:42:48
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 14:49:34 +0000 (UTC), dave@durge.org (David
Marshall) wrote:

>Which? almost never look at the cost of something - just how good it is.

Indeed. The classic was when they reviewed cartridges for hi-fi
turntables (a long time ago). The tested ones in the Ł5 to Ł150 range,
and found that the expensive ones sounded better, but not 30 times as
good, so the cheapest were the best value.

What the tossers forgot to allow for was that the rest of the hi-fi
cost maybe as much as Ł1000, and putting a Ł5 cartridge into that
would make the thing sound like a Ł100 stereo.

I reckon that someone (else) should do a Which? test on Which?
magazine. Doubt theyd get a very good rating.

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