GSM WORLD

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It has come to the attention of the votetaker that the Proponent has
posted to fifteen newsgroups not included in the original RFD with an
edited version of part of the CFV text in a bid to attract additional
support for his proposal. These posts contained a statement that the
official CFV could not be posted to those newsgroups due to a cross-post
limitation.

In accordance with the voting procedures, the votetaker has led an
investigation on behalf of UKVoting into these irregularities. The
result of that investigation determined that the proponent has
undermined the integrity of the vote and therefore there is no option
but to halt the vote and render the vote NULL & VOID.

UKVoting thanks those members of the electorate who brought this matter
to the votetakers attention.

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Pedt Scragg
Votetaker, uk.rec.gps

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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 15:57:13 +0000, Dave Fawthrop
wrote:

| On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 12:11:46 +0000, Pedt Scragg
| wrote:
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| | It has come to the attention of the votetaker that the Proponent has
| | posted to fifteen newsgroups not included in the original RFD with an
| | edited version of part of the CFV text in a bid to attract additional
| | support for his proposal. These posts contained a statement that the
| | official CFV could not be posted to those newsgroups due to a cross-post
| | limitation.
| |
| | In accordance with the voting procedures, the votetaker has led an
| | investigation on behalf of UKVoting into these irregularities. The
| | result of that investigation determined that the proponent has
| | undermined the integrity of the vote and therefore there is no option
| | but to halt the vote and render the vote NULL & VOID.
| |
| | UKVoting thanks those members of the electorate who brought this matter
| | to the votetakers attention.
|
| This allegation is false in total and in each and every part.
|
| The following newsgroups were
| | included in the original RFD.
|
| http://www.google.co.uk/groups?q=RFD++%22uk+rec+gps%22&hl=en&lr=&as drrb=b&as
mind=12&as minm=1&as miny 04&as maxd=5&as maxm=12&as maxy
04&selm=rfd2-uk.rec.gps-20041010142516%243955%40gradwell.net&rnum=1
| http://tinyurl.com/49wlc
| >>>
| I used google groups to count the number of threads mentioning GPG
| in the last year see below. I have chosen the six newsgroups with most
| threads mentioning GPS in the last year:
|
| I used google groups to count the number of threads mentioning GPG
| in the last year see below. I have chosen the six newsgroups with most
| threads mentioning GPS in the last year:
|
| uk.rec.cycling, 88 uk.rec.driving, 67
| uk.rec.motorcycles, 117 uk.rec.sailing, 102
| uk.rec.walking, 287 uk.telecom.mobile, 66
|
| This means that many uk.* newsgroups which have demonstrated an
| interest in GPS will not be officially informed of this RFD.
| These are:
| uk.sci.astronomy, 50 uk.business.agriculture, 23
| uk.radio.amateur, 32 uk.railway, 41
| uk.rec.audio.car, 16 uk.rec.boats.power, 4
| uk.rec.camping, 5 uk.rec.caravanning, 29
| uk.rec.cars.4x4, 6 uk.rec.cars.maintenance, 20
| uk.rec.cars.misc, 44 uk.rec.cars.modifications, 33
| uk.rec.climbing, 6 uk.rec.models.engineering, 2
| uk.rec.motorcaravans, 6 uk.rec.running, 18
| uk.rec.scuba, 27 uk.rec.waterways, 18
| uk.tech.rocketry, 8 uk.transport. 33
| <<<
|
| I challenge the votetaker to find a post by myself to any newsgroup not
| listed above.
|
| If anyone wants to check for themselves see:
|
http://www.google.co.uk/groups?q=+%22uk.rec.gps%22+author:Dave+author:Fawthrop&hl=en&lr=&as
drrb=b&as mind=12&as minm=11&as miny 04&as maxd=5&as maxm=12&as maxy 04&filter=0
| http://tinyurl.com/47uv6
|
|
|
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|
| Chris Croughton posting as himself not Control says
|
| On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:45:40 +0000, Chris Croughton
| wrote:
|
| | On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 03:13:28 +0000, Barry Salter
| | wrote:
| |
| | > The current relevant text reads:
| | >
| | > Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.
| | > Under no circumstances should you post your completed ballot paper
| | > to any Usenet/Net News newsgroup or other forum.
| | >
| | > The previous text added an extra paragraph:
| | >
| | > Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the
| | > official CFV as posted to uk.net.news.announce. Distributing pre-marked
| | > or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is considered to be *Voting
| | > Fraud*, and may lead to the vote being suspended or declared *NULL &
| | > VOID*. When in doubt, ask the votetaker, who can mail a copy of the CFV
| | > in reply.
| |
| | Where did Dave F do either? As far as I saw he posted the summary and a
| | pointer to unna (and the ballot address, which was I think unwise but
| | not as far as I can see against any rules).
| |
| | I saw one other person post the CFV (breaking the GPG check).
| |
| | Chris C
|
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|
| | These posts contained a statement that the
| | official CFV could not be posted to those newsgroups due to a cross-post
| | limitation.
|
| The crosspost limit problem has been done to death in the thread
| Is RFD/CFV system broken? Was: 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup
| in which I have been shown by others to be correct.
| The crosspost limit I referred to and used in this CFV was 8 however we now
| know that it would be better set at 5.
|
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|
| The SoD has been accepted by many to be balanced could in no way be a
| | bid to attract additional support for his proposal.
| even if it were to be posted to ngs not mentioned in the RFD/CFV, which it
| was not.
|
http://www.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=qgfeq0l0bdoei4ck1rchmmlnvfcdj3b83g%404ax.com
| http://tinyurl.com/3s735
|
|
| BTW The CFV has long gone from my machine, and because it was X-No-Archive
| is not on Google groups. Will someone post the message ID so that I can
| try to get it from NIN where it hopefully still resides.



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Dave F