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PostPosted: 2005-04-06 21:25:19
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One my friends who works for virgin mobile informed me today that the XDAIIs
is shit and o2 shops are constantly having them returned for going faulty
and falling appart.....is this true or massive exageration?


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PostPosted: 2005-04-06 21:49:16
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Major ChrisB wrote:
> One my friends who works for virgin mobile informed me today that the
> XDAIIs is shit and o2 shops are constantly having them returned for
> going faulty and falling appart.....is this true or massive
> exageration?

its interesting that the slightly newer model the IIi, doesnt have the
keyboard. A lot of review/critiques i read mentioned they were worried about
this becoming loose.


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PostPosted: 2005-04-07 09:14:02
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robspamtrap+usenet@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear...
> Major ChrisB wrote:
> > One my friends who works for virgin mobile informed me today that the
> > XDAIIs is shit and o2 shops are constantly having them returned for
> > going faulty and falling appart.....is this true or massive
> > exageration?
>
> its interesting that the slightly newer model the IIi, doesnt have the
> keyboard. A lot of review/critiques i read mentioned they were worried about
> this becoming loose.

Their fears are unfounded. Ive had one in above average use for 3
months and its still as tight as the day I got it (ooer).
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PostPosted: 2005-04-07 12:08:22
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Robert Moir wrote in message
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> Major ChrisB wrote:
> > One my friends who works for virgin mobile informed me today that the
> > XDAIIs is shit and o2 shops are constantly having them returned for
> > going faulty and falling appart.....is this true or massive
> > exageration?

I have the Orange SPV M2000 (Orange version of XDA IIs) and I am happy with
it so far. No major bugs found as of yet. Bluetooth is a bit erratic, but
nothing that is a problem.

> its interesting that the slightly newer model the IIi, doesnt have the
> keyboard. A lot of review/critiques i read mentioned they were worried
about
> this becoming loose.

As far as I know the XDA IIi is an upgrade of the XDA II and not a version
of the XDA IIs. Personally I think they should have named it something else
to avoid confusion. The keyboard is not loose on mine, but there again I
dont use it often, preferring the stylus to enter text.

Regards,

-halli-


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PostPosted: 2005-04-07 13:41:00
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-halli- wrote:
> I have the Orange SPV M2000 (Orange version of XDA IIs) and I am
> happy with it so far. No major bugs found as of yet. Bluetooth is a
> bit erratic, but nothing that is a problem.

One thing Ive noticed with all the newer complex phones is that there is
always *something* with just about all of them. Even going back to my T68i
when they were new; great phone but it had issues that had to be fixed up.

> As far as I know the XDA IIi is an upgrade of the XDA II and not a
> version of the XDA IIs. Personally I think they should have named it
> something else to avoid confusion. The keyboard is not loose on mine,
> but there again I dont use it often, preferring the stylus to enter
> text.

Ah.. First of all, Id certainly agree that the naming conventions are
confusing
Not to mention... tried googling on IIi lately? ;-) Do they not want us to
find online reviews (and yes i know searching on 2i works.. im just
having a bit of fun).

I actually got a 2i at the start of the week, having decided that i had
outgrown the SPV 200. I went to Orange retentions hoping for a decent
upgrade deal to stay with orange and get a SPV M2000 but the best they could
offer me was Ł250, if I upgraded to a Ł30 p.m. tariff. As O2 are happy to
charge Ł179 on a Ł25p.m tariff that meets my needs, I thanked the Orange rep
for his time and could he please give me my PAC code.

So of course, I took a trip to the O2 shop, expecting to pick up my XDA
2s, and while I was there i looked at it and thought it was mighty fine too.
Great looking PDA and perfectly good phone too from what id seen. Id also
read a lot of reviews on the SPV M2000 so I knew what I was getting into.

But while I was there I saw they had the 2i, aka the SPV M2500, which I knew
didnt have the keyboard but which had lots of small improvements compared
to the 2s (e.g. slightly better camera, slightly faster processor, slightly
more memory, etc.) so in the end ive decided to go with that.

And Im very impressed with it too but to be fair Id be just as impressed
with the 2s if id walked out with that. But im honestly not missing the
keyboard either since deciding to skip it, i find using the options
on-screen with the stylus keyboard and the phone pad predictive text
keyboard perfectly fine and much faster than entering text on the SPV 200.


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PostPosted: 2005-04-07 15:02:43
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> I actually got a 2i at the start of the week, having decided that i had
> outgrown the SPV 200. I went to Orange retentions hoping for a decent
> upgrade deal to stay with orange and get a SPV M2000 but the best they
could
> offer me was Ł250, if I upgraded to a Ł30 p.m. tariff. As O2 are happy to
> charge Ł179 on a Ł25p.m tariff that meets my needs, I thanked the Orange
rep
> for his time and could he please give me my PAC code.

I bought through E2save.com and got the M2000 for Ł109 with a Ł30 tarrif
(200 xnet mins + 200 Xnet mins free for 6 months) I thought it was a quite
good deal and I will just downgrade the contract at 6 months to the lowest
option (as I dont really need all of those mins) as far as I know you cant
downgrade the tarrif on O2 until later in the contract, plus I prefer the
silver fascia of the M2000 to the shiny black plastic of the XDA IIs.

> > So of course, I took a trip to the O2 shop, expecting to pick up my
XDA
> 2s, and while I was there i looked at it and thought it was mighty fine
too.
> Great looking PDA and perfectly good phone too from what id seen. Id
also
> read a lot of reviews on the SPV M2000 so I knew what I was getting into.
>
> But while I was there I saw they had the 2i, aka the SPV M2500, which I
knew
> didnt have the keyboard but which had lots of small improvements compared
> to the 2s (e.g. slightly better camera, slightly faster processor,
slightly
> more memory, etc.) so in the end ive decided to go with that.

If I had found a similar deal to the one I am on now for the XDA IIi, I
would have probably gone for that too as I wanted it for the WIFI,
Bluetooth, GPRS and IRDA that both units offer. The megapixel camera was
very tempting on the IIi, but for the amount I use the camera the VGA one is
fine.

> And Im very impressed with it too but to be fair Id be just as impressed
> with the 2s if id walked out with that. But im honestly not missing the
> keyboard either since deciding to skip it, i find using the options
> on-screen with the stylus keyboard and the phone pad predictive text
> keyboard perfectly fine and much faster than entering text on the SPV 200.

What do you mean by the phone pad predictive text keyboard Do you mean the
standard tiny on screen keyboard?When I am entering text with the stylus I
prefer the letter recogniser or the transcriber It even recognises my
scrawly handwriting!

-halli-


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PostPosted: 2005-04-07 14:30:57
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-halli- wrote:
> I bought through E2save.com and got the M2000 for Ł109 with a Ł30
> tarrif (200 xnet mins + 200 Xnet mins free for 6 months) I thought it
> was a quite good deal and I will just downgrade the contract at 6
> months to the lowest option (as I dont really need all of those
> mins) as far as I know you cant downgrade the tarrif on O2 until
> later in the contract, plus I prefer the silver fascia of the M2000
> to the shiny black plastic of the XDA IIs.

O2 tell me i can downgrade after 6months on this new contract, but right
now i think ive picked just about what i need so I dont know that i will.
I know the M2000 is much cheaper from orange on a new contract, and i know
obviously the price i paid for a new PDA phone from O2. Thats why I was so
annoyed at the upgrade price orange quoted me; I dont expect something like
this phone for free on a relatively low contract like mine, but Ł250 on an
upgrade, when ive been with them a few years already and spent a fair bit
in the past, is just taking the p!ss.

> If I had found a similar deal to the one I am on now for the XDA IIi,
> I would have probably gone for that too as I wanted it for the WIFI,
> Bluetooth, GPRS and IRDA that both units offer. The megapixel camera
> was very tempting on the IIi, but for the amount I use the camera the
> VGA one is fine.

Yep. Im not sure ill use the camera that much either way apart from the
odd occasion so it wasnt a big part of my decision at all. The rest of it,
i know i wanted more PDA abilities than the SPV 200 offered and I know i
wanted WiFi, so that narrowed it down to a choice between the XDA 2i or 2s
for me.

> What do you mean by the phone pad predictive text keyboard Do you
> mean the standard tiny on screen keyboard?When I am entering text
> with the stylus I prefer the letter recogniser or the transcriber
> It even recognises my scrawly handwriting!

When entering text there is (on the XDA 2i anyway) a phone dialer pad you
can bring up on-screen, not quite the same as the one you use for making
calls but its a on-screen set of numerical buttons that are designed to
operate by finger-tip and which you can use all the usual t9 predictive
text things that phones have had for years. I find it very easy to use that
and when it suggests the word im after, to just tap the screen to choose
it, and can type fairly fast with it.

Im quite impressed with the transcriber too. Ive only had this phone for
less than a week but im really very impressed with the overall
experience. Windows PDAs have come a long way since the first ones I
played with, and with a tri-band phone and WiFi built in, thats my on the
road needs pretty much taken care of!


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> O2 tell me i can downgrade after 6months on this new contract, but right
> now i think ive picked just about what i need so I dont know that i
will.
> I know the M2000 is much cheaper from orange on a new contract, and i know
> obviously the price i paid for a new PDA phone from O2. Thats why I was so
> annoyed at the upgrade price orange quoted me; I dont expect something
like
> this phone for free on a relatively low contract like mine, but Ł250 on an
> upgrade, when ive been with them a few years already and spent a fair bit
> in the past, is just taking the p!ss.

Couldnt you have just started a new contract with orange?

> When entering text there is (on the XDA 2i anyway) a phone dialer pad you
> can bring up on-screen, not quite the same as the one you use for making
> calls but its a on-screen set of numerical buttons that are designed to
> operate by finger-tip and which you can use all the usual t9 predictive
> text things that phones have had for years. I find it very easy to use
that
> and when it suggests the word im after, to just tap the screen to choose
> it, and can type fairly fast with it.

I have not come across this on my phone, perhaps it is an O2 thing, or XDA
rather than SPV

> Im quite impressed with the transcriber too. Ive only had this phone for
> less than a week but im really very impressed with the overall
> experience. Windows PDAs have come a long way since the first ones I
> played with, and with a tri-band phone and WiFi built in, thats my on the
> road needs pretty much taken care of!

Me too :-)

-halli-


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