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PostPosted: 2008-06-11 13:34:43
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Hi I have just been given a k800i from my niece as she has up-graded.
It works ok and I like it very much but she has not looked after it
very well so it needs a face lift. I have seen genuine Sony Ericsson
replacement housing kits on Ebay and am aware I need a Torex 6
screwdriver. What I would like to know how easy is it to replace the
covers on this phone.
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PostPosted: 2008-06-11 19:33:25
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 hamsatuk wrote:

>Hi I have just been given a k800i from my niece as she has up-graded.
>It works ok and I like it very much but she has not looked after it
>very well so it needs a face lift. I have seen genuine Sony Ericsson
>replacement housing kits on Ebay and am aware I need a Torex 6
>screwdriver. What I would like to know how easy is it to replace the
>covers on this phone.

Actually if you have suitably sized watchmakers screwdrivers you can
even get away without the Torx bits, but if you have access to them its
safer. These phones are fairly simple to dismantle and reassemble if
youre careful.

Remove the battery cover to expose two screws at the bottom of the main
board. Dont remove these yet. Remove the battery itself to reveal two
more, smaller screws holding down the top half of the rear casing.
Remove these, then prize up the top half of the rear cover, which is
held in place at the top with plastic clips. This will expose two more
screws; remove all four corner screws and the whole guts of the thing
can be prized carefully past the plastic tabs on the side of the front
cover.

Thats pretty much it. Re-assembly is, unsurprisingly, the exact
reverse.

There are a couple of things to watch for. Firstly there are two tiny
conductive green flexible tubes, similar to those found in some
watches and calculators, that I think carry sound signals from the main
board to the microphone and speaker. Theyre held in place fairly well
by mouldings on the case but they can come loose if youre not careful.
Make sure any replacement case has these intact, or transplant them from
the case youre removing, or you may end up with no outgoing or incoming
sound.

Also, the power and camera shutter buttons float in mouldings on the
case and make contact with chassis switches beneath when the phone is
assembled. These can drift out of alignment on re-assembly and cause
stiff and/or non-operation of the buttons. Keep an eye on them as you
put it back together. Other buttons may have similar issues, but these
are the only two Ive seen problems with.

Finally, because hinge on the rubber cover for the memory card slot
engages with the internal workings rather than the case, this will need
to be pulled out before disassembly and it (or a replacement) pushed
back when youre done. Pulling this out is really scary; it stretches a
bit and feels as though its going to snap rather than disengage. But it
will eventually pop out.

While youve got the thing apart it might also be worth removing the
joystick nubbin and associated buttons (carefully, or the protective
membrane can rip) and giving the switch beneath a good blast with switch
cleaner, isopropyl alcohol, an air duster or a combination of all three.
The joystick isnt a bad design but even so crap tends to migrate and
gather under there and can make the switch operation intermittent. Its
particularly annoying during the Tennis game :) The reason I know how to
take these phones apart is because Ive had to clean mine three times.

Try to do all this in as dust-free an environment as possible. Sometimes
you cant see specs of dust on the display and/or case window until its
all back together and the backlight comes on, at which point they stick
out like sore thumbs and annoy the hell out of you.

Good luck.

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Kev

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PostPosted: 2008-06-11 20:00:48
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:33:25 +0100, Kevin Reilly
wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 hamsatuk wrote:
>
>>Hi I have just been given a k800i from my niece as she has up-graded.
>>It works ok and I like it very much but she has not looked after it
>>very well so it needs a face lift. I have seen genuine Sony Ericsson
>>replacement housing kits on Ebay and am aware I need a Torex 6
>>screwdriver. What I would like to know how easy is it to replace the
>>covers on this phone.
>
>Actually if you have suitably sized watchmakers screwdrivers you can
>even get away without the Torx bits, but if you have access to them its
>safer. These phones are fairly simple to dismantle and reassemble if
>youre careful.
>
>Remove the battery cover to expose two screws at the bottom of the main
>board. Dont remove these yet. Remove the battery itself to reveal two
>more, smaller screws holding down the top half of the rear casing.
>Remove these, then prize up the top half of the rear cover, which is
>held in place at the top with plastic clips. This will expose two more
>screws; remove all four corner screws and the whole guts of the thing
>can be prized carefully past the plastic tabs on the side of the front
>cover.
>
>Thats pretty much it. Re-assembly is, unsurprisingly, the exact
>reverse.
>
>There are a couple of things to watch for. Firstly there are two tiny
>conductive green flexible tubes, similar to those found in some
>watches and calculators, that I think carry sound signals from the main
>board to the microphone and speaker. Theyre held in place fairly well
>by mouldings on the case but they can come loose if youre not careful.
>Make sure any replacement case has these intact, or transplant them from
>the case youre removing, or you may end up with no outgoing or incoming
>sound.
>
>Also, the power and camera shutter buttons float in mouldings on the
>case and make contact with chassis switches beneath when the phone is
>assembled. These can drift out of alignment on re-assembly and cause
>stiff and/or non-operation of the buttons. Keep an eye on them as you
>put it back together. Other buttons may have similar issues, but these
>are the only two Ive seen problems with.
>
>Finally, because hinge on the rubber cover for the memory card slot
>engages with the internal workings rather than the case, this will need
>to be pulled out before disassembly and it (or a replacement) pushed
>back when youre done. Pulling this out is really scary; it stretches a
>bit and feels as though its going to snap rather than disengage. But it
>will eventually pop out.
>
>While youve got the thing apart it might also be worth removing the
>joystick nubbin and associated buttons (carefully, or the protective
>membrane can rip) and giving the switch beneath a good blast with switch
>cleaner, isopropyl alcohol, an air duster or a combination of all three.
>The joystick isnt a bad design but even so crap tends to migrate and
>gather under there and can make the switch operation intermittent. Its
>particularly annoying during the Tennis game :) The reason I know how to
>take these phones apart is because Ive had to clean mine three times.
>
>Try to do all this in as dust-free an environment as possible. Sometimes
>you cant see specs of dust on the display and/or case window until its
>all back together and the backlight comes on, at which point they stick
>out like sore thumbs and annoy the hell out of you.
>
>Good luck.
Hi Kevin.
Thanks for the instructionsWill let you know how it goes.
Thanks
Tony


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PostPosted: 2008-06-22 13:28:19
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:33:25 +0100, Kevin Reilly
wrote:

Hi Kevin
Well here is an update to my efforts to replace the housings, etc on
my k800i. Well I did not have any major problems replacing all of the
covers and the keyboard also all the side buttons operate the correct
contacts on the housing.
I do however have a problem which is down to me not being carful
and/or not taking note of a particular part. I refer to the on/off
button. A new plastic one was included in the new package so replaced
this during re-assemble. I have a feeling that r a part has dropped
out during re-assemble as I can not see how this button is capable of
switching it on and off. On reexamination there appears to be two
metal tags which I assume the button when pushed down causes something
to touch these two contacts to create a circuit which then turns the
phone on. As I have stated I do not have this part and it was not
included in my new pack, also there has not been a mention in all of
the instructions on disassembly and re-assembly that I have read on
the internet. Do you know if all of my findings above are correct or
is there something I have missed?
Look forward to you reply.
Regards
Tony




>On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 hamsatuk wrote:
>
>>Hi I have just been given a k800i from my niece as she has up-graded.
>>It works ok and I like it very much but she has not looked after it
>>very well so it needs a face lift. I have seen genuine Sony Ericsson
>>replacement housing kits on Ebay and am aware I need a Torex 6
>>screwdriver. What I would like to know how easy is it to replace the
>>covers on this phone.
>
>Actually if you have suitably sized watchmakers screwdrivers you can
>even get away without the Torx bits, but if you have access to them its
>safer. These phones are fairly simple to dismantle and reassemble if
>youre careful.
>
>Remove the battery cover to expose two screws at the bottom of the main
>board. Dont remove these yet. Remove the battery itself to reveal two
>more, smaller screws holding down the top half of the rear casing.
>Remove these, then prize up the top half of the rear cover, which is
>held in place at the top with plastic clips. This will expose two more
>screws; remove all four corner screws and the whole guts of the thing
>can be prized carefully past the plastic tabs on the side of the front
>cover.
>
>Thats pretty much it. Re-assembly is, unsurprisingly, the exact
>reverse.
>
>There are a couple of things to watch for. Firstly there are two tiny
>conductive green flexible tubes, similar to those found in some
>watches and calculators, that I think carry sound signals from the main
>board to the microphone and speaker. Theyre held in place fairly well
>by mouldings on the case but they can come loose if youre not careful.
>Make sure any replacement case has these intact, or transplant them from
>the case youre removing, or you may end up with no outgoing or incoming
>sound.
>
>Also, the power and camera shutter buttons float in mouldings on the
>case and make contact with chassis switches beneath when the phone is
>assembled. These can drift out of alignment on re-assembly and cause
>stiff and/or non-operation of the buttons. Keep an eye on them as you
>put it back together. Other buttons may have similar issues, but these
>are the only two Ive seen problems with.
>
>Finally, because hinge on the rubber cover for the memory card slot
>engages with the internal workings rather than the case, this will need
>to be pulled out before disassembly and it (or a replacement) pushed
>back when youre done. Pulling this out is really scary; it stretches a
>bit and feels as though its going to snap rather than disengage. But it
>will eventually pop out.
>
>While youve got the thing apart it might also be worth removing the
>joystick nubbin and associated buttons (carefully, or the protective
>membrane can rip) and giving the switch beneath a good blast with switch
>cleaner, isopropyl alcohol, an air duster or a combination of all three.
>The joystick isnt a bad design but even so crap tends to migrate and
>gather under there and can make the switch operation intermittent. Its
>particularly annoying during the Tennis game :) The reason I know how to
>take these phones apart is because Ive had to clean mine three times.
>
>Try to do all this in as dust-free an environment as possible. Sometimes
>you cant see specs of dust on the display and/or case window until its
>all back together and the backlight comes on, at which point they stick
>out like sore thumbs and annoy the hell out of you.
>
>Good luck.


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PostPosted: 2008-06-22 17:10:40
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 hamsatuk wrote:

>switching it on and off. On reexamination there appears to be two
>metal tags which I assume the button when pushed down causes something
>to touch these two contacts to create a circuit which then turns the
>phone on. As I have stated I do not have this part and it was not
>included in my new pack, also there has not been a mention in all of
>the instructions on disassembly and re-assembly that I have read on
>the internet.

That sounds a bit worrying. The physical on-off button on the K800i is
nothing more than a disc of plastic floating in a rubber membrane held
in place by the front of the casing. The actual on-off switch is
immediately below this, on one of the PCBs forming the core of the
phone. With just the upper-rear casing removed its possible to push the
rubber-and-plastic on-off button away from the body and get to this
switch directly. Its a tiny black thing, probably less than 1mm wide,
and you can press it in with a watchmakers screwdriver or similar if
you want to test the phone before re-assembly.

It sounds to me as though on of two things has happened. Either youve
mistaken the switch housing for a couple of metal contacts (there are
exposed metal pieces either side of the black switch itself) in which
case have a closer look and you should be able to see the switch in
between these two contacts. If this is the case then your problem may
be as simple as a sticky button thats not reaching the switch
properly. This is quite common and often needs nothing more than a
disassembly/re-assembly to loosen it.

The other alternative is that the switch itself has broken away from the
PCB and you are literally looking at two surface-mount contacts where
the switch body should be. If thats the case then youre going to need
someone with very good electronics skills to Jerry-rig some sort of
switch assembly under that button, unless you can find a dead k800i from
which to salvage the switch. Either way youre looking at a very fine
soldering exercise.

Take a look at http://www.denali.org.uk/sek800i/eric.jpg and youll see
the arrangement Im talking about. If yours looks similar then you
should be OK and its just a matter of aligning the outer button with
the inner switch. If not, good luck in finding a replacement :(

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