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PostPosted: 2008-06-15 18:54:16
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It would occasionally be useful to be able to connect my laptop to the
internet when away from home. I would like to be able to do this - as
economically as possible - using one of my mobile phones as a modem, rather
than using WiFi and having to be in the proximity of a hotspot.

I have 3 mobile phones, all on Orange - 2 PAYG and one on Eq Virgin tariff.
All have infra-red. I have a USB-based infra-red adaptor for the laptop.

Can some kind soul please explain what the options are, in words of one
syllable - cos Im somewhat confused by what it says on the Orange site. My
3 phones are a Nokia 6070 on the OVP tariff - a free upgrade for the
S-E-K300i (now with a PAYG SIM in it), itself a free upgrade for the
original Nokia 6150e (also now having a PAYG SIM) - but I can mix and match
phones and SIMs if there is any advantage in doing so.

The Orange website has a blow by blow account of how to use quite a lot of
different phones as a modem - but none of my 3 phones shows up in their
drop-down menus! But, looking at the menus on the 6070 (for example) I
appear to be able to select GPRS Packet Data or somesuch, and the word
modem appears on the screen - so I assume I can use this phone as a modem
even though it isnt listed as such on the Orange site?

Then theres the question of pricing. The Ł1 per day deal would suit me very
nicely, but its not at all clear (to me at any rate!) whether this only
applies when Im using the phone *itself* for emailing and browsing (which
Ive no desire to do) as opposed to using it as a modem to connect my
laptop.

Can someone please clarify just what *is* possible?

When using the phone as a modem I presume theres some way of connecting it
to an appropriate Orange server (special number to dial?) rather than
dialling an 0845 number to connect to one of my existing dial-up accounts -
which would cost an arm and a leg and probably be dreadfully slow? What sort
of speed does GPRS achieve?

All help appreciated!
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PostPosted: 2008-06-15 11:22:52
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On 15 Jun, 18:54, Roger Mills wrote:
> It would occasionally be useful to be able to connect my laptop to the
> internet when away from home. I would like to be able to do this - as
> economically as possible - using one of my mobile phones as a modem, rathe=
r
> than using WiFi and having to be in the proximity of a hotspot.
>
> I have 3 mobile phones, all on Orange - 2 PAYG and one on Eq Virgin tariff=
.
> All have infra-red. I have a USB-based infra-red adaptor for the laptop.
>
> Can some kind soul please explain what the options are, in words of one
> syllable - cos Im somewhat confused by what it says on the Orange site. =
My
> 3 phones are a Nokia 6070 on the OVP tariff - a free upgrade for the
> S-E-K300i (now with a PAYG SIM in it), itself a free upgrade for the
> original Nokia 6150e (also now having a PAYG SIM) - but I can mix and matc=
h
> phones and SIMs if there is any advantage in doing so.
>
> The Orange website has a blow by blow account of how to use quite a lot of=

> different phones as a modem - but none of my 3 phones shows up in their
> drop-down menus! But, looking at the menus on the 6070 (for example) I
> appear to be able to select GPRS Packet Data or somesuch, and the word
> modem appears on the screen - so I assume I can use this phone as a mode=
m
> even though it isnt listed as such on the Orange site?
>
> Then theres the question of pricing. The Ł1 per day deal would suit me =
very
> nicely, but its not at all clear (to me at any rate!) whether this only
> applies when Im using the phone *itself* for emailing and browsing (which=

> Ive no desire to do) as opposed to using it as a modem to connect my
> laptop.
>
> Can someone please clarify just what *is* possible?
>
> When using the phone as a modem I presume theres some way of connecting i=
t
> to an appropriate Orange server (special number to dial?) rather than
> dialling an 0845 number to connect to one of my existing dial-up accounts =
-
> which would cost an arm and a leg and probably be dreadfully slow? What so=
rt
> of speed does GPRS achieve?
>
> All help appreciated!
> --
> Cheers,
> Roger
>
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> monitored..
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The Ł1/day deal on pay as you go includes both browsing the internet
from the handset and when using it as a modem. I think it is still
against their terms and conditions to use the service as a modem
however; but for occasional use only, theyll never know.

The service only applies to GPRS data only so no dial-up. I normally
enter *99# as the dial-up number but rather than dialling this
number the phone should read it as a command to start a GPRS session
instead. So, even though your laptop thinks its a dial-up connection
the phone isn


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PostPosted: 2008-06-15 19:36:52
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I have done this many times.

The general idea is that you connect the laptop to the phone in some
way (bluetooth or cable - not sure IR works for this) and then use the
dial-up networking connection option on the laptop to set up a DUN
connection. For GPRS/3G the number dialled is *99# if I remember
correctly.

This will give you plain internet access and the billing is per
kilobyte no matter what the data is used for.

Bluetooth is nice for this because you just lay the phone next to the
laptop. But you need a laptop with BT or with a BT adapter plugged in.
Cables are more tricky because not many phones come with them...

You can also use a phone as a plain dial up modem where you set up the
phone # of a dialup ISP. I have just been doing this with a satellite
phone (no GPRS/3G) and been dialling 0044845.... (the ISP number) and
there are various ISPs which are free in that they make money off
the phone call. I have been using Primex but there are many. This
works at 9600 baud i.e. very slow, but better than nothing. And you
pay per second, as with voice calls.

I warn you: data on PAYG is very expensive. Ł1 in the UK maybe but
wait till you go abroad and discover the roaming charges... Ł10/MB or
whatever.


Roger Mills wrote

>It would occasionally be useful to be able to connect my laptop to the
>internet when away from home. I would like to be able to do this - as
>economically as possible - using one of my mobile phones as a modem, rather
>than using WiFi and having to be in the proximity of a hotspot.
>
>I have 3 mobile phones, all on Orange - 2 PAYG and one on Eq Virgin tariff.
>All have infra-red. I have a USB-based infra-red adaptor for the laptop.
>
>Can some kind soul please explain what the options are, in words of one
>syllable - cos Im somewhat confused by what it says on the Orange site. My
>3 phones are a Nokia 6070 on the OVP tariff - a free upgrade for the
>S-E-K300i (now with a PAYG SIM in it), itself a free upgrade for the
>original Nokia 6150e (also now having a PAYG SIM) - but I can mix and match
>phones and SIMs if there is any advantage in doing so.
>
>The Orange website has a blow by blow account of how to use quite a lot of
>different phones as a modem - but none of my 3 phones shows up in their
>drop-down menus! But, looking at the menus on the 6070 (for example) I
>appear to be able to select GPRS Packet Data or somesuch, and the word
>modem appears on the screen - so I assume I can use this phone as a modem
>even though it isnt listed as such on the Orange site?
>
>Then theres the question of pricing. The Ł1 per day deal would suit me very
>nicely, but its not at all clear (to me at any rate!) whether this only
>applies when Im using the phone *itself* for emailing and browsing (which
>Ive no desire to do) as opposed to using it as a modem to connect my
>laptop.
>
>Can someone please clarify just what *is* possible?
>
>When using the phone as a modem I presume theres some way of connecting it
>to an appropriate Orange server (special number to dial?) rather than
>dialling an 0845 number to connect to one of my existing dial-up accounts -
>which would cost an arm and a leg and probably be dreadfully slow? What sort
>of speed does GPRS achieve?
>
>All help appreciated!


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PostPosted: 2008-06-15 22:03:16
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Roger Mills wrote in message
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> It would occasionally be useful to be able to connect my laptop to the
> internet when away from home. I would like to be able to do this - as
> economically as possible - using one of my mobile phones as a modem,
> rather than using WiFi and having to be in the proximity of a hotspot.
>
> I have 3 mobile phones, all on Orange - 2 PAYG and one on Eq Virgin
> tariff. All have infra-red. I have a USB-based infra-red adaptor for the
> laptop.
>
> Can some kind soul please explain what the options are, in words of one
> syllable - cos Im somewhat confused by what it says on the Orange site.
> My 3 phones are a Nokia 6070 on the OVP tariff - a free upgrade for the
> S-E-K300i (now with a PAYG SIM in it), itself a free upgrade for the
> original Nokia 6150e (also now having a PAYG SIM) - but I can mix and
> match phones and SIMs if there is any advantage in doing so.

>
I hope you have a lot of patience, cos none of those phones are 3g
which you need for effective speeds.

I used to use a Nokia 6310i on Orange world Ł1 daily to connect my laptop,
its a good way to fall asleep

Steve Terry


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PostPosted: 2008-06-16 20:07:28
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Steve Terry wrote in message
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> >
> I hope you have a lot of patience, cos none of those phones are 3g
> which you need for effective speeds.
>
> I used to use a Nokia 6310i on Orange world Ł1 daily to connect my laptop,
> its a good way to fall asleep
>
> Steve Terry

I use the service with a phone as a modem occasionally and it works OK.
Slow obviously, but not useless and certainly better than nothing if you
want to get online from a place where there is no fixed line.....


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PostPosted: 2008-06-16 21:03:23
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Ivor Hardone wrote in message
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> Steve Terry wrote in message
> news:g3402s$div$1@news.albasani.net...
>> >
>> I hope you have a lot of patience, cos none of those phones are 3g
>> which you need for effective speeds.
>> I used to use a Nokia 6310i on Orange world Ł1 daily to connect my
>> laptop,
>> its a good way to fall asleep
>> Steve Terry
>
> I use the service with a phone as a modem occasionally and it works OK.
> Slow obviously, but not useless and certainly better than nothing if you
> want to get online from a place where there is no fixed line.....
>
I would rather buy a used Nokia 6630 with a 3 PAYG sim,
then for from 5quid a month, Id have something useable.

Wait a min thats what Im doing.

Only now I would look for a Nokia 6120 for its turbo modem
which could be up to 4 times faster than ive got, on a 3.5G cell

Steve Terry


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PostPosted: 2008-06-17 11:49:37
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Steve Terry wrote in message
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> I would rather buy a used Nokia 6630 with a 3 PAYG sim,
> then for from 5quid a month, Id have something useable.
>
> Wait a min thats what Im doing.
>
> Only now I would look for a Nokia 6120 for its turbo modem
> which could be up to 4 times faster than ive got, on a 3.5G cell
>
> Steve Terry

But how much data can you get for 5 quid a month? I am looking for a
mobile solution to use in the van at weekends....
Was gonna buy a 3 modem, but is this option a better one?


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PostPosted: 2008-06-18 09:32:36
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John Morris wrote in message
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> Steve Terry wrote in message
> news:g36guc$e0q$1@news.albasani.net...
>> I would rather buy a used Nokia 6630 with a 3 PAYG sim,
>> then for from 5quid a month, Id have something useable.
>>
>> Wait a min thats what Im doing.
>>
>> Only now I would look for a Nokia 6120 for its turbo modem
>> which could be up to 4 times faster than ive got, on a 3.5G cell
>>
>> Steve Terry
>
> But how much data can you get for 5 quid a month? I am looking for a
> mobile solution to use in the van at weekends....
> Was gonna buy a 3 modem, but is this option a better one?
>

3PAYG has a 2GB limit while the 3 Contract one has a 1GB limit?

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