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PostPosted: 2003-11-10 11:57:11
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Seems the batteries with 3310 and 3330, 3510, 3510i, 5510, 6650 and 6800
models could be explosive according to a Belgian watchdog.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/68/33879.html

Nokia blame 3rd party replacements obviously.
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PostPosted: 2003-11-10 12:06:36
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:57:11 GMT, timco
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>Seems the batteries with 3310 and 3330, 3510, 3510i, 5510, 6650 and 6800
>models could be explosive according to a Belgian watchdog.
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/68/33879.html
>
>Nokia blame 3rd party replacements obviously.

Nokia do seem adamant that all these batteries are made by
unauthorised third-parties. You would think that by now they would
have found out who these third-parties were, named and pursued them.

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PostPosted: 2003-11-10 12:45:37
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> Seems the batteries with 3310 and 3330, 3510, 3510i, 5510, 6650 and 6800
> models could be explosive according to a Belgian watchdog.
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/68/33879.html
>
> Nokia blame 3rd party replacements obviously.
> timco
>
>

So, Nokia build devices that emit radiation and explode? Sounds like a
certain dirty terrorist device to me.
Watch out Jorma, Dubya might catch wind of this and friendly fire your ass.

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PostPosted: 2003-11-11 10:23:01
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timco wrote in message
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> Seems the batteries with 3310 and 3330, 3510, 3510i, 5510, 6650 and 6800
> models could be explosive according to a Belgian watchdog.
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/68/33879.html
>
> Nokia blame 3rd party replacements obviously.
> timco
>

If 3rd party batteries are to blame then so are Nokia. According to a book
by Bruce Schneier called Beyond Fear nokia actually researched and
implemented a feature in their handsets that makes the phone draw full power
from any 3rd party battery detected. Obviously this is intended to make
non-Nokia batteries seem inferior and disuade people from using them.
It seems to me that if they are drawing power more quickly from a battery
then the amount of heat produced will increase and could possibly be a cause
or a contributing factor of the explosion.
Im no electrician (neither am I a conspiracy theorist) but Im guessing
theres a possible connection?

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PostPosted: 2003-11-11 18:53:59
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:23:01 -0000, Chopper
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>According to a book
>by Bruce Schneier called Beyond Fear nokia actually researched and
>implemented a feature in their handsets that makes the phone draw full power
>from any 3rd party battery detected.

Utter drivel. I use non-Nokia batteries in several Nokia handsets, and
the battery life is BETTER than the original battery, so the handset
cannot possibly be drawing additioanl current.

As for drawing full power from a battery, thats stupid: you can
take a pretty big current from a Li-Ion battery. If Nokia were doing
this, the battery would flatten in a few minutes.

This has to be as moronic a dead granny as the #90 hoax.

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PostPosted: 2003-11-11 19:39:08
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> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:23:01 -0000, Chopper
> wrote:
>
> >According to a book
> >by Bruce Schneier called Beyond Fear nokia actually researched and
> >implemented a feature in their handsets that makes the phone draw full
power
> >from any 3rd party battery detected.
>
> Utter drivel. I use non-Nokia batteries in several Nokia handsets, and
> the battery life is BETTER than the original battery, so the handset
> cannot possibly be drawing additioanl current.
>
> As for drawing full power from a battery, thats stupid: you can
> take a pretty big current from a Li-Ion battery. If Nokia were doing
> this, the battery would flatten in a few minutes.
>
> This has to be as moronic a dead granny as the #90 hoax.
>
> --
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> Iain
> the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones
> http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html
> Browse now while stocks last!

Ive dug out the actual piece from the book (page 39 Beyond Fear - ISBN:
0-387-02620-7)

Nokia spends about a hundred times more money per phone on battery security
than on communications security. The security system senses when a consumer
uses a third-party battery and switches the phone into maximum
power-consumption mode; the point is to ensure that consumers buy only Nokia
batteries.


Ive not quoted him in order to say hes right, youre wrong but just to
prove Ive not just made up some crappy theory on the spot. At the same
time, he is a world renowned security expert and author with a few books
behind him so I can only assume this is fact and has been backed up with
research.
There must be someone on this group that will know if this is b0llocks or
not!?

chopper

btw, not an affiliate of the publisher or author.


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PostPosted: 2003-11-11 20:16:33
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:39:08 -0000, Chopper
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>Ive not quoted him in order to say hes right, youre wrong but just to
>prove Ive not just made up some crappy theory on the spot. At the same
>time, he is a world renowned security expert and author with a few books
>behind him so I can only assume this is fact and has been backed up with
>research.

>There must be someone on this group that will know if this is b0llocks or
>not!?

Certainly the 20+ reviews of the book on Amazon seem to rate it
highly. I have ordered a copy myself to see what all the fuss is
about.

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PostPosted: 2003-11-11 23:53:01
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:39:08 -0000, Chopper
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>Ive not quoted him in order to say hes right, youre wrong but just to
>prove Ive not just made up some crappy theory on the spot.

Im sorry if I implied that youd made that rubbish up: I appreciate
that you were quoting someone.


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